Subj : Re: Upstate brainwashees
To   : AARON THOMAS
From : Mike Powell
Date : Tue Oct 01 2024 11:41 am

>  RS> Interestingly enough, he did have enough pull to get congress to vote
>  RS> down an immigration bill that both sides liked, seemingly because he
>  RS> needed the immigration platform for his campaign. So maybe that's not as
>  RS> true as we'd like.

> Mike tried to make that same argument but I guess I'll have to say this: it's
> been debunked.

No it hasn't.  I have provided links to where he persuaded Congressional
Republicans to change their minds and kill the bill.  I have seen no
links where a *legit*, non-social-media-talking-head, news source has provided
information that he did not do so.

Not only that, but Trump *himself* repeatedly took credit for getting the
bill killed.  If you are correct and he had nothing to do with it, then he
is a liar!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-takes-credit-at-rally-for-killing-
bipartisan-border-crackdown-bill-then-rails-about-border/ar-BB1hmzN0

"A pleased Donald Trump at a Las Vega campaign rally Saturday took credit for
arm-twisting behind the scenes to convince Republicans to kill the bipartisan
federal bill to crack down on border security.

"[...] It's a tactic that has sparked harsh criticism, even from Republicans.

"Trump provided no reason for opposing the 'monstrosity' of a bill in his
Nevada speech.

"'I'll fight it all the way ... please blame it on me'"

Trump Brags He Delivered the Death Knell to Bipartisan Bill
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-brags-he-delivered-the-death-knell
-to-bipartisan-bill-it-s-dead/ar-BB1i3NhV

Trump brags about efforts to stymie border talks: "Please blame it on me"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/27/trump-border-biden/

GOP senators seethe as Trump blows up delicate immigration compromise
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-
deal/index.html

"In recent weeks, Trump has been lobbying Republicans both in private
conversations and in public statements on social media to oppose the border
compromise being delicately hashed out in the Senate..."

> Ex presidents don't control anything. Trump doesn't control
> congress. He doesn't have "pull." If ex presidents controlled congress, which
> they don't, then what would the purpose of having a congress be?

He should not have, correct, but he does.  All he has to do to ruin most
Republican's future election chances, or worse, is to label them as "RINO" and
his followers will take care of the rest.

Aside from *maybe* Obama, I have never witnessed a former President, or
anyone who is running for President, attempt to interfere with the current
government like Trump has.


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