Subj : Binkd and TLS To : Rob Swindell From : Alexey Fayans Date : Wed Dec 18 2019 13:23:02 Hello Rob! On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 15:11 -0800, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist: RS> The people-in-the-know don't like starttls: RS> https://serverfault.com/questions/523804/is-starttls-less-safe-than-tl RS> s-ssl If you read this carefully, you will see that all flaws are optional. Yes, protocol allows to continue in plain text if TLS negotiation failed, but not required. Seurity is not about how strictly a protocol is designed. It's about implementation. .... Music Station BBS | https://bbs.bsrealm.net | telnet://bbs.bsrealm.net --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20180707 * Origin: Music Station | https://ms.bsrealm.net (2:5030/1997) .