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       ARTICLE VIEW: 
       
       Harris defends ‘scripted’ style and agrees Trump is ‘about
       fascism’ in wide-ranging interview with Charlamagne tha God
       
       By Gregory Krieg and Ebony Davis, CNN
       
       Updated: 
       
       7:50 AM EDT, Wed October 16, 2024
       
       Source: CNN
       
       Vice President brushed off criticism that she comes across as “very
       scripted” – wearing her cautious style as a badge of honor –
       during a wide-ranging interview Tuesday in Detroit with radio host
       Charlamagne Tha God.
       
       “That would be called discipline,” Harris said, arguing that
       “there are certain things that must be repeated to ensure that I have
       everyone know what I stand for.”
       
       On a , where she is critical to her coalition, Harris pushed back
       repeatedly against suggestions she was disconnected from the Black
       community and made a vigorous case against her rival, former , saying
       his campaign feeds on fear and agreeing with the radio host that it is
       “about fascism.”
       
       “By voting in this election, you have two choices, or you don’t
       vote, but you have two choices if you do and it’s two very different
       visions for our nation,” Harris said, warning as she often does that
       another Trump presidency would “take us backward.”
       
       But Charlamagne Tha God, co-host of “The Breakfast Club” radio
       show, pushed the vice president to go further.
       
       “The other is about fascism,” he said. “Why can’t we just say
       it?”
       
       “Yes, we can say that,” Harris said.
       
       In the hourlong, town hall-style interview, Harris called the coming
       election a “a margin-of-error race” and outlined her new
       proposals aimed at appealing to Black men, while also discussing her
       economic agenda, health care proposals and plans to continue pushing
       the , an anti-police brutality bill that has failed in Congress.
       
       Harris defended her record as San Francisco district attorney,
       describing herself as “one of the most progressive prosecutors” on
       marijuana cases. If elected, Harris said, she would push for federal
       decriminalization.
       
       Asked about how she would engage with the Black community, and the
       Black church specifically, Harris said that she had “grown up” in
       the church and that any suggestion otherwise was slander by the
       “Trump team.”
       
       “They are full of mis- and disinformation, because they are trying to
       disconnect me from the people I have worked with and that I am from,”
       said Harris, the daughter of immigrants from Jamaica and India.
       “Because otherwise they have nothing to run on.”
       
       Harris also slammed Trump over his vow at a rally last week in Aurora,
       Colorado, to invoke the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to expedite the
       removal of undocumented gang members.
       
       “He is running fulltime on a campaign that is about instilling fear,
       not about hope, not about optimism, not about the future, but about
       fear,” Harris said.
       
       A night earlier, on the trail in Pennsylvania, she took the unusual
       step of playing for the audience a collection of clips showing Trump
       calling his political opponents the “enemy within” – describing
       the video as evidence that the former president is “increasingly
       unstable and unhinged.”
       
       In her interview Tuesday, Harris pointed to Trump’s lies about the
       Haitian immigrant population in Springfield, Ohio, which set off a
       furor that caused local officials to cancel a cultural diversity
       celebration and led the Republican governor, Mike DeWine, to call in
       state police to protect school students.
       
       “Look what he did in saying that those legal immigrants in
       Springfield, Ohio were eating their pets,” Harris said.
       
       Trump and running mate JD Vance, the junior senator from Ohio, made the
       false assertion repeatedly despite being confronted with multiple
       fact-checks and a public rebuke from DeWine and local officials.
       
       Harris called it a feint to distract from Trump’s successful efforts
       to scuttle a bipartisan border deal on Capitol Hill earlier this year.
       
       “The hypocrisy of it abounds because on the issue of immigration,
       let’s be clear, some of the most conservative members of the United
       States Congress, working with others, came up with a border security
       bill, which was the strongest, toughest border security bill in a long,
       long time,” she said.
       
       “He prefers to run on a problem instead of fix a problem. And we got
       to call it out and see it for what it is,” Harris added.
       
       After the interview, Harris stopped by a watch party at CRED Café, a
       coffee shop and event space owned by former NBA players Joe and Jordan
       Crawford. She thanked attendees and pushed them to the polls.
       
       “Early voting, everybody knows it starts in four days here in
       Michigan, and Detroit is going to help deliver Michigan,” Harris
       said. “Michigan is going to help us win.”
       
       Earlier in the day, she visited the Black-owned Norwest Art Gallery,
       where she was joined by actors Don Cheadle, Delroy Lindo and Detroit
       native Cornelius Smith Jr. for a conversation with Black men focused
       on entrepreneurship.
       
       This headline and story have been updated.
       
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