Subj : For you SBBS Sysops o To : Arelor From : Accession Date : Sun Jun 30 2024 07:59 pm On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 22:55:28 -0500, you wrote: A> I like bootup scripts. I didn't mind them either. They did their job (and still do) well. I just ran into systemd when it was introduced into Archlinux, and kept going with it. I didn't go out of my way to go back to sysvinit, that's all. Otherwise, I don't worry too much about politics in general, especially Linux politics. A> Sometimes you only need a web browser and would rather use Netsurf. The A> problem is lots of software projects jumped the gun for no very good A> (official) reason and made it hard for everybody to use anything but A> SystemMonkeyD... current systemdless solutions that actually work exist A> due only to massive effort from the FOSS community. I do remember when all of this went about. I don't really know if "jumped the gun" is the best description, or if they just "followed suit" because everyone else was doing it. A> BTW there are enough pieces of circumpstancial evidence to suggest A> systemd's blessed side effect was to cripple the BSD ecosystem A> explicitly. Not that it is working that well. The BSDs have a tendency A> not to try to be Linux. Looks as though FreeBSD forums are already discussing something similar to systemd, if not already in the ports tree. MacOS already has something called "launchd" which is similar. So, who knows what they're doing. Regards, Nick .... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:115.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderb * Origin: _thePharcyde distribution system (Wisconsin) (723:1/1) þ Synchronet þ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) .