Subj : Re: Gaming (Windows) PC: buil To : Brian Rogers From : Tracker1 Date : Mon Jul 19 2021 06:35 pm On 7/16/2021 5:24 AM, Brian Rogers wrote: > > Dells aren't too bad a machine and the xps series usually are > decent for gaming. Dell are effectively hot garbage e-waste... half the parts in newer systems are completely proprietary, even the power supply and motherboards on many of them right now. And while some are 12V only, they aren't the new standard even. The lower-end video cards are crap, the higher end are okay. That doesn't go into the bloatware, and their really sleazy sales channel tactics right now. If you're going big box builder, HP is likely a better bet. See "secret shopper" reviews on Linus Tech Tips and Gamers Nexus regarding Dell products lately. -- Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com --- þ Synchronet þ Roughneck BBS - roughneckbbs.com .