VIRUS-L Digest Friday, 9 Dec 1988 Volume 1 : Issue 41 Today's Topics: Macintosh viruses Re: Rajshree Bhatt - Macintosh viruses Mac Virus Documentation from Apple Re: Too much information Spafford report in UK CHRISTMA EXEC... (VM/CMS) Dos 2 vs Dos 3, etc (PC) enquiry for virus history --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Dec 88 08:43:50 EST From: Rajshree_Bhatt%Wayne-MTS@um.cc.umich.edu Subject: Macintosh viruses I am also extremely interested in Mac viruses, and related material. I don't wish to bore anyone by my ignorance but any comments would be greatly appreciated. I've just been through a harrowing experience of coming in each morning and finding that my system has been trashed! The problem was not isolated, the dealer came in and gave me a replacement. So until someone enlightens me, Iiruses >I am also extremely interested in Mac viruses, and related material... You can obtain a HyperCard stack informing you about the known Mac viruses, programs to get rid of them and keep them out, and general hints on avoiding viruses by sending mail to LISTSERV at SCFVM on BITNet. The text of the message should be GET ANTI-VIR SITHQX. Listserv will send you a copy of the file. It is in BinHex4 format, and will have to be decoded by BinHex4 or by StuffIt. If you're a novice Mac user, please drop me a private note and I will help you with getting the file and converting it back into a usable form. - --- Joe M. [Ed. Thanks again for the prompt answer, Joe!] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Dec 88 10:49:19 EST From: Joe McMahon Subject: Mac Virus Documentation from Apple I just got a call yesterday from someone at Apple in California (I'm sorry, but I didn't get his name) who tells me that Apple is pge. I don't know how long it will be before it is out, but I would guess that they will let me know when it is going to be. I would suppose they'll provide it via AppleLink. So, if you've had trouble getting my stack, you may be able to get it from your Apple dealer soon! - --- Joe M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Dec 88 11:20:28 EST From: Ben Chi Subject: Re: Too much information ** OVERFLOW ** OVERFLOW ** OVERFLOW ** OVERFLOW ** OVERFLOW ** TILT ** I'm facing a dilemma that may be troubling other readers of this llist as well: the list contents is getting just too voluminous (not to say repetitious at times) and I just don't have time to wade through it all every day any more. That by itself is of no interest to anyone else, although it may be a problem some others are having as well. Where the problem lies is that I'm relying on the list for early warning of imminent trouble (a role it served ao unsubscribe for reasons of safety. Which brings to mind an interesting question: Is there another list that serves as a virus alert hot-line? If not, should there be one? No exchange of opinions, no flames, no meeting announcements, just facts dealing with situations that require IMMEDIATE acton. [Ed. I don't know of any such list, but it may not be a bad idea.] _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. Benjamin E. Chi BEC@ALBNYVM1.BITNET Director of Technical and Network Services or BEC@UACSC1.ALBANY.EDU Computing Services Center fax available but unlisted The University at Albany, Albany NY 12222 USA vox (518)442-3702 Acknowledge-To: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Dec 88 14:47:54 GMT From: Ian O'Brien Subject: Spafford report in UK JANET based readers of this list might like to know thaf the report is there. If you haven't used the info-server software before send an empty mail message to "info-server@uk.ac.ukc" and find out how to order a copy Ian - --- Ian O'Brien - systems programmer at Bath University computing services ------------------------------ Date: Fri Dec 09 09:14:14 1988 From: Pedro Sepulveda J. Subject: CHRISTMA EXEC... (VM/CMS) Hi Networkers...! We need a copy of CHRISTMA EXEC, any people have it...?. Do you can send us it...? Thanks in advance... Viral Research Group Universidad de Santiago de Chile ------------------------------ Date: WED DEC 07, 1988 12.52.37 EST From: "Prof Arthur I. Larky" Subject: Dos 2 vs Dos 3, etc (PC) If you format a hard disk under dos3.x, and its big enough, it gets formatted with 16-bit fat entries; dos2.x only formats with 12-bit fat entries; thus, a hard drive formatted under dos3.x can'trable because there is no way to prevent a program from doing anything. Some things are not easy and/or possible under DOS, but you can program anything. Since everyone who cares to read a manual can find out where all the important things are stored in RAM, you can goof up anything. Thus protection on PC's runs to things like not letting you do disk writes and checking programs to see if they have become longer or have had come check property (like CRC) altered. Not the greatest protection! I don't think Fred Cohen has a bitnet address. Last I heard he wanted an account on Lehigh's computers, but wasn't given one because he isn't on the faculty here any more. Art Larky CSEE Dept Lehigh U {Of course, these are my opinions and not Lehigh's.} ------------------------------ Date: 9-DEC-1988 17:46:44 GMT From: Olivier Crepin-Leblond Subject: enquiry for virus history Does anybody know how I could get hold of a paper titled how he actually imagined viruses. Olivier Crepin-Leblond Computer System & Electronics Engineering King's College London U.K. ------------------------------ End of VIRUS-L Digest ********************* Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253